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S0RR0W

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DoD needs a buff.
« on: May 07, 2017, 03:00:09 PM »
DoD so weak

Give untouchable to all avatars. They are so easily removed for 7 cost. It's ridiculous. How are we suppose to play defensive if everytime you commit to a 7 cost card, they get removed.

Offline Vuurjopi

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Re: DoD needs a buff.
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2017, 12:07:16 AM »
So, about the avatars:

They can only be effectively removed if they're
  • Removed from game
  • Transformed
  • Lose all text
  • Some wacky other mechanics
Let's look for each of those how they can be removed.

Removed from game:
  • Verore Kidnapper (rather expensive, kidnapper can be removed)
  • Kidnapped by Demons (may return after a while)
  • Agent Coyle, Ascended (needs to battle, coyle will likely die as well)
  • Heavenly Wish (rather expensive, only in 3p OoS)
  • Ethereal Fusion (who the puffy plays Ethereal Fusion)
  • The Calamity (very expensive)
Transformed:
  • Gorgon Beam (rather expensive, only hits the battlefield)
  • Xi, martyr (very expensive, is DoD)
  • Spiritualize (only hits the battlefield, is DoD)
  • Demonize (only hits the battlefield)
  • Descension (I ain't even mad)
Lose all text:
  • Defiance (your character becomes stronger)
  • Humble (is from DoD)
Some wacky other mechanics:
  • Altar of binding (hard to hit right, altar can be removed)
  • Struggle for power (not easy to pull off)
  • Suza, Angelic Siren (can be removed, only hits the battlefield)
Aside from that, FD has some nasty red tape, humble and exhaust. But they don't completely remove the looming thread of an avatar.

From the above mentioned removals, most are expensive removals, the ones that aren't have limitations you can play around. The (arguably) most threatening card is Humble, but that's a DoD card itself. It's true that (almost) every faction has an answer to the avatars, but the game would no longer be challenging if they don't.
I agree that triple DoD has some problems, but that's the case for almost 3p deck. I don't believe the avatars or the removal are the problem here.

TL;DR
It's not that easy to completely remove the avatars. Triple factions are rather weak anyway.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 12:13:40 AM by Vuurjopi »
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Re: DoD needs a buff.
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2017, 02:06:49 AM »
The main problem for 3P DOD right now is that they have no focus on any kind of strategy. Should they attack or should they defend? should they win by morale or by taking out the health bar? Its all a mess. If you attack then your defense is compromised, but then again if you defend then your attacking is compromised. Thats why avatars are pretty hard to commit too because they are easily removed and most of DoD's key character cards are expensive as hell so how are you suppose to have board presence when your cards are expensive and can be easily killed. I am a 3p DOD main and that's why i'm not playing anymore until the balance patches come out for all the cards in the game.

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Re: DoD needs a buff.
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2017, 05:18:35 AM »
Dont play triple DoD.

Use that Op 2DoD 1Exiles bullpuffy deck and you wont be complaining about underpowered anymore