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Is Rita Toxic

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Offline ecliptix

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Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« on: October 29, 2016, 03:48:08 PM »
Okay, before I go off into a rant I wanna know what other people think. Is Rita, Mistress of Shadow a toxic card?
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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2016, 04:01:27 PM »
No. Lol.

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2016, 04:38:01 PM »
You think Rita contributes to a healthy meta game?

I'm not saying she's OP - I'm saying she's toxic and promotes a really, really boring style of gameplay.
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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2016, 07:03:38 PM »
I am saying she isn't toxic, and doesn't promote a toxic or boring style of game play.

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2016, 07:15:55 PM »
Who is voting no? Rita is the most toxic card ever. She promotes stall and her tokens are Death Blast fuel. If she isn't toxic, let's bring back the old Xi.

Rita is used in Shrine decks, Virus decks, and Death Blast decks.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2016, 07:23:13 PM by ORISOLVE »
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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2016, 08:07:11 PM »
Who is voting no? Rita is the most toxic card ever. She promotes stall and her tokens are Death Blast fuel. If she isn't toxic, let's bring back the old Xi.

Rita is used in Shrine decks, Virus decks, and Death Blast decks.
Old Xi didn't exhaust.

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2016, 11:24:53 AM »
I voted yes, i think she needs some changes

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2016, 12:22:22 PM »
While I feel she isn't op, I do feel she is toxic,
I've noticed a lot of toxic gameplay styles in IW lately; Mill the most toxic of them all.
I've always thought that, since we're an online Tcg, we should be able to make balance updates easily, and on the fly to promote not only the most skillful, but most fun playstyles while limiting one-sided or out of nowhere plays. (think karckk or deathblast)

Iw is in a bad state right now, and it'll only get worse as more sets are released, that is if we don't start rotating sets out, or doing continuous balance patches.
Just look at MTG if you want any evidence.

Tldr, it's not rita that's toxic, or imbalanced, it's the entirety of IW right now, rita is just a symptom of a much bigger problem.

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2016, 12:50:21 PM »
I feel character based stall is fine just make the characters worth more morale

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2016, 12:56:23 PM »
Stall is not fine, in any shape or form.
It may be fun for the person playing it; But it's hardly ever fun for the receiving end.
For an extreme exampple, play against a pillow fort deck in Mtg

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2016, 01:00:06 PM »
Stall is not fine, in any shape or form.
It may be fun for the person playing it; But it's hardly ever fun for the receiving end.
For an extreme exampple, play against a pillow fort deck in Mtg

That sounds like more spells once again. Characters need to be more emphasized, character based stall should be allowed as it is more interactive if it can be pulled off right it should be fine as all characters can generally be countered. Spell stall appears to be more guessing and uninteractive.

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2016, 01:17:37 PM »
i voted for "most toxic card ever" because verore has way too many good commanders lol

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2016, 01:27:35 PM »
Stall is not fine, in any shape or form.
It may be fun for the person playing it; But it's hardly ever fun for the receiving end.
For an extreme exampple, play against a pillow fort deck in Mtg

That sounds like more spells once again. Characters need to be more emphasized, character based stall should be allowed as it is more interactive if it can be pulled off right it should be fine as all characters can generally be countered. Spell stall appears to be more guessing and uninteractive.
I disagree, while I do enjoy character based fights more, I believe having a skillbased game is more important than a stall based game.
For ex. Mass death is fine, big draw back that makes it predictable.
A mass death would not be fine if there's an opposite of it, for ex hitting support zone instead of the battlefield.
This is where power creep comes in and plays havoc as new sets are released. As time goes on, will become harder and harder to balance each set. Every card has the potential to become a combo in such away that ruins the intended effects.

All of this leads up to me advocating for rotation of sets, re-releases of old cards etc. not only would it help long term balance, but would also cut down on future development time
That is...if the devs are interested in the long-term future of the game.

Iw is very up in the air right now, on one hand the devs are working on the game again, on the other a lot of their actions lead me to believe this is more or less of a cashgrab until they run out of funds...
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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2016, 01:31:33 PM »
i voted for "most toxic card ever" because verore has way too many good commanders lol

Pls nerf masked initiate.

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Re: Game Discussion - Is Rita Toxic?
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2016, 02:53:03 PM »
Anyone who thinks IW's balance is in a bad state right now has clearly not played during older metas where everything was far more overpowered or toxic. This game is more skill based than any digital card game right now regardless of whatever deck happens to be viable right now.