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Title: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:02:43 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/0DwTTbp.jpg?3)

Hi all,

Welcome to all the information about the preOrder! [ha, ha]



PREORDER WILL LAUNCH ON NOVEMBER 21st, 12AM IWT


ORDER WILL LAUNCH ON DECEMBER 12th, 12AM IWT


The hype train is pulling into the station, woo woo!


Important Notes: Order cards will NOT be tournament legal until December 19th, 12AM IWT.

Ranked will be reset with the release of Order.



Similar to the Ascension preorder, the bonuses are split into two categories. The first is based on the size of the pack you buy and the second set of bonuses are related to how many sets are purchased overall.

Yes, all preorders get platinum borders, including the alternate arts [Shiny!]

Purchasing is available with IP or LP, although not both at the same time [You can’t buy a 25 pack with half LP and half IP].

To combine packs [eg 2x 25 packs into a 50 pack, please email marketing@lightmare.com.au to have the packs combined. We will only be taking requests for combining packs until Wednesday the 9th of December.




Purchasing Bonuses:

-   Purchasing is not cumulative [for instance buying two 25 packs does not equal a 50 pack].

-   Each higher level gets the rewards below it so if you buy a 50 pack you get the Battlefield Deck effect, the Noble Protector Alternate Art, the cardback, and the avatar.

-   All purchasing bonuses are not soulbound.

-   The alternate cardbacks are all different, no double ups in the rewards :)

-   Note: unique items can only be activated once on each account. This includes avatars, cardbacks and the deck effect.

Buy 1 pack: Platinum borders [shiny!]

Buy a 5 pack: Alien Avatar

Buy a 10 pack: Double Gun Cardback and also receive 1 extra copy of all unlocked alternate stretch goal art.

Buy a 25 pack: Alternate art of Noble Protector and also receive 2 extra copies of all unlocked alternate stretch goal art.

Buy a 50 pack: Battlefield Deck Effect and also receive 3 extra copies of all unlocked alternate stretch goal art.

Please note: the new bonuses reflect the highest pack purchased and are not cumulative.


Lightmare acknowledges that there is a tradeoff between buying 2x 25 packs, and buying 1x 50 pack. Purchasing 2x 25 packs will net you more total Alternate Arts, however you will not get the Battlefield Deck Effect. This is entirely up to the player, however it is very important to remember that the alternate art stretch goals are soulbound, so having 6 of them really doesn't do you very much.

Stretch Goal Bonuses


To be valid for these bonuses you need to have purchased at least one pack of Order cards during the presale period. Both IP and LP purchases count towards this.

Stretch goal bonuses are soulbound.

1st milestone: Banish alternate art

2nd milestone: Overseer Avatar

3rd milestone: Stained Glass Cardback

4th milestone: Glorious Warrior alternate art

5th milestone: Redhead Avatar

6th milestone: Black and White Cardback

7th milestone: Alternate Card art drawn by Infinity Wars Lead Designer Ian Underwood. [This card is to be voted on by the public and will be released at a later date.]


Cardbacks

(http://i.imgur.com/hhKigYP.png)(http://i.imgur.com/JDKLi5g.png)(http://i.imgur.com/kSYQOcZ.png)

Avatars

(http://i.imgur.com/NzmGWDl.png)(http://i.imgur.com/kKuLNhb.png)(http://i.imgur.com/1mWrOZy.png)

Noble Protector Alternate Art:

(http://i.imgur.com/vfZywys.png)

Glorious Warrior Alternate Art:

(http://i.imgur.com/c7jCtST.png)

Banish Alternate Art:

(http://i.imgur.com/2Q0PgVD.png)

Deck Effect:

(http://i.imgur.com/KrBCBfk.jpg)




Pre-order rewards are not exclusive but they are extremely limited edition. At some point in the future they may be offered again - but don’t count on it.   

Get excited!

Any questions, feel free to ask  :)

Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: SDSakuragi on November 21, 2014, 12:08:46 AM
Squee!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Coolcor on November 21, 2014, 12:10:20 AM
Squee!

What are you squeeing at is it the Banish alt art?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: goldernebel on November 21, 2014, 12:11:37 AM
Oh yes! Time to waste all my.... err I mean invest in some new cards! ::)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: xneosrevenge on November 21, 2014, 12:11:43 AM
These look beautiful! Do need the third cardback! (:
Ian alt art is so stronk \o/ Are we going to get any previews of Deck Effect or is it a secret? :3
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: SDSakuragi on November 21, 2014, 12:12:17 AM
Squee!

What are you squeeing at is it the Banish alt art?

Daft Punk avatar!

I do want to see the animated versions of the alt arts tho.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:12:40 AM
Are we going to get any previews of Deck Effect or is it a secret? :3

The deck effect will be shown at a later time.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Kevkas on November 21, 2014, 12:18:49 AM
Wow, those cardbacks @_@
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Nehkrimah on November 21, 2014, 12:25:00 AM
Excellent, can't wait to get much epic loot. I think my favourites are the Second Cardback, the first Avatar.

I hope we get to the 7th milestone. much Hype!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Vertu Honagan on November 21, 2014, 12:28:53 AM
For me the top ones are:

2nd Cardback is amazing
the female Avatar chick is awesome
Glorious Warrior Alternate Art is pretty nice. He's being shot at by an Overseers dude!

The bad:

1st Cardback, is that an Ascension one re-released? Looks too much like Ascension cardbacks.
2nd Avatar, kinda looks too drawn by microsoft Paint feel to it. I dunno, I just not a big fan of it.
Banish Alternate Art, the face looks like clay, there are no eyes, and the hair on the right side looks like it's growing out of his right eye.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:29:58 AM
1st Cardback, is that an Ascension one re-released? Looks too much like Ascension cardbacks.

Yes, that's the cardback that wasn't reached from the last preorder. There was an outcry for it and it's an awesome cardback, so we brought it back for you guys.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Vertu Honagan on November 21, 2014, 12:33:10 AM
Yes, that's the cardback that wasn't reached from the last preorder. There was an outcry for it and it's an awesome cardback, so we brought it back for you guys.

Thanks for the quick response! I have a feeling that that 3rd cardback will have an even greater outcry if it's not reached! I'd personally rather get the last 2 first and have the ascension rerelease one only if we get to it. The other 2 are MUCH better!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BlackLightning on November 21, 2014, 12:33:38 AM
I really like the 3rd cardback :)

Will there be any card spoilers in between november 21st and december 12th?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Chaz8591 on November 21, 2014, 12:34:12 AM
Dat alt-art Banish Bulge though. Lol.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BunnyStark on November 21, 2014, 12:34:38 AM
The ballsack on card Banish though....
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: NikaSharkeh on November 21, 2014, 12:35:08 AM
I have a question regarding mass-pack purchasing. When reaching a tier(5/10), do we...

A) Get all three avatars/cardbacks?

B) Choose one out of three avatars/cardbacks?

C) Get a random one out of three avatars/cardbacks?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Winsanity on November 21, 2014, 12:35:54 AM
Soooo just to clarify. Say I buy 25 packs with IP and 25 packs with LP. They will not count as the 50 pack bundle right? Also, dat third cardback is tight yo. Take my money now

Also, is noble protector a new card? Or am I retarded and need to brush up on my DoD cards?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 12:38:29 AM
I really like the 3rd cardback :)

Will there be any card spoilers in between november 21st and december 12th?

We're going to have a stream showcasing the set, and the overseers changes. Info to follow soon.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:38:53 AM
Soooo just to clarify. Say I buy 25 packs with IP and 25 packs with LP. They will not count as the 50 pack bundle right? Also, dat third cardback is tight yo. Take my money now

That is correct.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Kevkas on November 21, 2014, 12:40:59 AM
Schumi, you should put in the first post exactly what day the pre-order finshes, that should save you guys a lot of questions (unless you can preorder up to the very last day before Order is released).
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:41:27 AM
I have a question regarding mass-pack purchasing. When reaching a tier(5/10), do we...

A) Get all three avatars/cardbacks?

B) Choose one out of three avatars/cardbacks?

C) Get a random one out of three avatars/cardbacks?

The purchasing bonuses are the only ones that apply to mass purchasing.

If the community goals are reached, the other avatars/cardbacks/alt arts will be unlocked.

For mass purchasing, you will receive [depending on how many packs you purchase]: Avatar, cardback, alt art of Noble Protector, Deck Effect and extra copies of the stretch goal arts if they're unlocked.

I hope that helps!

Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:42:04 AM
Schumi, you should put in the first post exactly what day the pre-order finshes, that should save you guys a lot of questions (unless you can preorder up to the very last day before Order is released).

You can preorder right up to the time when Order is released.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Kevkas on November 21, 2014, 12:44:11 AM
You can preorder up right up to the time when Order is released.

Oh ok, thanks.

Also, the cardback that one gets with a 10-pack preorder... which one is it from those three? Or do we get to choose?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:45:23 AM
Also, the cardback that one gets with a 10-pack preorder... which one is it from those three? Or do we get to choose?

The cardback for the 10 pack of preOrder is the double guns cardback.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: NikaSharkeh on November 21, 2014, 12:47:10 AM
The purchasing bonuses are the only ones that apply to mass purchasing.

If the community goals are reached, the other avatars/cardbacks/alt arts will be unlocked.

For mass purchasing, you will receive [depending on how many packs you purchase]: Avatar, cardback, alt art of Noble Protector, Deck Effect and extra copies of the stretch goal arts if they're unlocked.

I hope that helps!



Sorry, thats not exactly what i asked  :D

Say, i purchase 10 packs of cards at once. Do i get to choose what one avatar and one back i want, do i get one avatar and one cardback at random or do i get all avatars and all cardbacks?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BlackLightning on November 21, 2014, 12:47:53 AM
I really like the 3rd cardback :)

Will there be any card spoilers in between november 21st and december 12th?

We're going to have a stream showcasing the set, and the overseers changes. Info to follow soon.

Thanks for the quick response
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:48:55 AM
Say, i purchase pack of 10 cards at once. Do i get to choose what one avatar and one back i want, do i get one avatar and one cardback at random or do i get all avatars and all cardbacks?

If you purchase 10 cards at once, you get the double gun cardback.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: NikaSharkeh on November 21, 2014, 12:50:34 AM

If you purchase 10 cards at once, you get the double gun cardback.

-scratch that- nevermind, just got it  ;D silly me
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Winsanity on November 21, 2014, 12:50:58 AM
Just saying. You misspelled stretch goat like a WHOLE bunch.

^^^stretch goats unlock the other avatars and card backs. That's why it says 2 or 3 copies of all unlocked stretch goat alt arts
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:51:49 AM

If you purchase 10 cards at once, you get the double gun cardback.

Oh, so the rewards are fixed, meaning everyone gets same avatar for 5 pack and same back for 10 pack? How do we get the rest that you showed us, then?

The stretch goal bonuses are a community goal. Once the community purchases a specific number of packs, one goal will be unlocked for everyone, and so on.

Once the game is back up, you'll be able to see the preOrder bar for this.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 12:52:22 AM
Just saying. You misspelled stretch goat like a WHOLE bunch.

^^^stretch goats unlock the other avatars and card backs. That's why it says 2 or 3 copies of all unlocked stretch goat alt arts

*glare* I can make you Sins again, you know.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Winsanity on November 21, 2014, 12:53:54 AM
Just saying. You misspelled stretch goat like a WHOLE bunch.

^^^stretch goats unlock the other avatars and card backs. That's why it says 2 or 3 copies of all unlocked stretch goat alt arts

*glare* I can make you Sins again, you know.
But.....then what would I do with all these Winsanity 2014 coffee mugs I ordered? q.q
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: NikaSharkeh on November 21, 2014, 12:57:01 AM
The stretch goal bonuses are a community goal. Once the community purchases a specific number of packs, one goal will be unlocked for everyone, and so on.

Once the game is back up, you'll be able to see the preOrder bar for this.

Got it, sorry! You are really fast at responding, i wasnt fast enough to edit my post  ;D

In my own opinion it sort of removes the element of exclusivity though, that everyone who purchases at least 1 pack will get most of the pre-order stuff anyway once community reaches the goal. "Buy 10 packs - get one out of three exclusive avatars(which are not achiveable any other way but purchasing said 10 pack)" would've probably been better. But, just my opinion as i said x3

Cant wait for the release, amazing job! :D
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BlackLightning on November 21, 2014, 12:57:33 AM
I have a feeling that the Moose card is going to give FD and WP a MEAN splash.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Adorabear on November 21, 2014, 01:00:59 AM
Just saying. You misspelled stretch goat like a WHOLE bunch.

^^^stretch goats unlock the other avatars and card backs. That's why it says 2 or 3 copies of all unlocked stretch goat alt arts

This! :P


Also I really love the redy-gold angel cardback ill definitely be useing it if I can. Also hype for Ian alt art! We need maximum stretchgoats!

The glorious warrior alt art is cool but a bit strange considering he is about to be shot in the head. Not really my idea of glory but... artistic licence I guess?

All in all very hype. Seems like there is something for everyone here :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 21, 2014, 01:01:42 AM
I didn't expect much and I'm still let down...

Anyway, I have a couple of questions.
Are those alternate artworks shown the final version or close to what they are going to look like in terms of quality?
Also is there any guarantee measures in place for the deck effect, seeing how the last preorder deck effect was pretty lazy and at this point an insult to your largest preorder supporters, especially when comparing it to a baseline deck effect with the infestation one? How am I as a customer encouraged to buy 1 50 pack instead of 2 25 packs, considering the lack of quality shown in the last preorder? I am completely serious, and don't want to waste my money on something like that again, so please change my mind.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 01:06:51 AM
Are those alternate artworks shown the final version or close to what they are going to look like in terms of quality?

These are the finished works, yes.

Also is there any guarantee measures in place for the deck effect?

What kind of guarantee are you looking for? There is certainly a deck effect for buying 50 packs, I have updated the post with the image.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: goobypls on November 21, 2014, 01:09:13 AM
No reason for me to reach the 50 pack tier it seems. Im actually a bit confused if a ticket to support can still merge IP and LP purchases together to unlock a next tier. The red cardback looks beautiful, I hope it gets unlocked. And yay for Ian drawing whatever card we vote on! Hype!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 21, 2014, 01:15:15 AM
Idk maybe something like, if the deck effect is not up to quality like the ascension one, the customer can have an option for something else so that way it doesn't feel like they are wasting a lot of money for nothing?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: 3Sleeper on November 21, 2014, 01:15:37 AM
so no reason to pre order 1x50 pack instead of 2x25...?

      didnt we have the same problem last time with ascension?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: NikaSharkeh on November 21, 2014, 01:17:49 AM
Also, probably newb question:

If i purchase 50 pack, do i get the bonuses(at least avatar, cardback, effect) now, or only when order gets released?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: 3Sleeper on November 21, 2014, 01:18:24 AM
when it gets released
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 21, 2014, 01:18:30 AM
Also don't take this the wrong way, but I would highly suggest you send your artists back and redo both the noble protector and banish alt arts. Tbh those look like the worst they had very little effort put into it and don't exact compel me to preorder more.
Take a look at the quality in all the other alt arts you;ve done, and then compare it to the cartoon effects in this preorder.
The glorious warrior is passable.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: trivialpursuit on November 21, 2014, 01:19:34 AM
That deck effect looks a little.. underwhelming? At least compared to the Infestation one. THAT was a cool effect. Hopefully there's a neat animation or something.

Also I'm not too keen on the alt art cards or avatars tbh. But I really like the card backs, so I'll be gunning for those
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 01:20:30 AM
No reason for me to reach the 50 pack tier it seems. Im actually a bit confused if a ticket to support can still merge IP and LP purchases together to unlock a next tier. The red cardback looks beautiful, I hope it get's unlocked. And yay for Ian drawing whatever card we vote on! Hype!

I have updated the original post, you can email marketing@lightmare.com.au to have your packs combined.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: goobypls on November 21, 2014, 01:22:13 AM
No reason for me to reach the 50 pack tier it seems. Im actually a bit confused if a ticket to support can still merge IP and LP purchases together to unlock a next tier. The red cardback looks beautiful, I hope it get's unlocked. And yay for Ian drawing whatever card we vote on! Hype!

I have updated the original post, you can email marketing@lightmare.com.au to have your packs combined.

Awesum, luv u
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 01:23:26 AM
No reason for me to reach the 50 pack tier it seems. Im actually a bit confused if a ticket to support can still merge IP and LP purchases together to unlock a next tier. The red cardback looks beautiful, I hope it get's unlocked. And yay for Ian drawing whatever card we vote on! Hype!

The post is being updated to reflect the answer to this. I'll be taking care of all of that myself.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 01:25:04 AM
so no reason to pre order 1x50 pack instead of 2x25...?

      didnt we have the same problem last time with ascension?

If you don't like the deck effect, get the 25 packs. That's your call, not ours.

That deck effect looks a little.. underwhelming? At least compared to the Infestation one. THAT was a cool effect. Hopefully there's a neat animation or something.

Also I'm not too keen on the alt art cards or avatars tbh. But I really like the card backs, so I'll be gunning for those

There is a stationary idle that looks as if your deck is encased in metal, with an activated by click particle effect that is what you see shown in the screenshot. It's very difficult to show why the deck effect is cool in a still image.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 21, 2014, 01:27:51 AM
so no reason to pre order 1x50 pack instead of 2x25...?

      didnt we have the same problem last time with ascension?

If you don't like the deck effect, get the 25 packs. That's your call, not ours.

That deck effect looks a little.. underwhelming? At least compared to the Infestation one. THAT was a cool effect. Hopefully there's a neat animation or something.

Also I'm not too keen on the alt art cards or avatars tbh. But I really like the card backs, so I'll be gunning for those

There is a stationary idle that looks as if your deck is encased in metal, with an activated by click particle effect that is what you see shown in the screenshot. It's very difficult to show why the deck effect is cool in a still image.

So customers of the ascension one are never going to have their deck effect improved? Seeing as the infestation one is interactable and now this new one seems to be, why is the cloud one being ignored?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Githian on November 21, 2014, 01:39:11 AM
Stretch goat hype!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Shimrra3 on November 21, 2014, 01:41:13 AM
Coherent response not forthcoming, busy being dazed by cardbacks.



OK I once again remain largely confused by all the bonuses and what I should be doing to maximize my rewards. Must think on this.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: stranger42 on November 21, 2014, 01:52:20 AM
Well, unless you want the noble protector alt art, I think actually spamming 10 pack bundles is the best value so far, in terms of getting the stretch goal alt arts
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 21, 2014, 01:54:06 AM
Well, unless you want the noble protector alt art, I think actually spamming 10 pack bundles is the best value so far, in terms of getting the stretch goal alt arts

If it works anything like the last ones, doing that would net you only 1 extra alt art from stretch goals, not anything above.
For example, ordering  20 sets of 10 packs, you would only have 1 of the alt arts from stretch goals.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Adorabear on November 21, 2014, 01:55:32 AM
Ranked will be reset with the release of Order.

More info plis? I would like some reason to be hyped about this since its on the hype thread ::)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: SDSakuragi on November 21, 2014, 02:05:48 AM
Working on making stretch goats. Please send more red wine.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/31/article-1203459-05E7C259000005DC-976_634x386.jpg)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BunnyStark on November 21, 2014, 02:13:47 AM
So, there is no incentive left after purchasing x50 pack bundle? Well, except buying more single pack of Order cards to boost the number of Platinum cards.  :-[
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Vertu Honagan on November 21, 2014, 02:37:25 AM
So, there is no incentive left after purchasing x50 pack bundle? Well, except buying more single pack of Order cards to boost the number of Platinum cards.  :-[

The community Stretch goals are the incsentive to keep buying more! Sure you could get all the solo goals, but there is also the community goals as well! Which are even tougher to get!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BunnyStark on November 21, 2014, 02:39:32 AM
So, there is no incentive left after purchasing x50 pack bundle? Well, except buying more single pack of Order cards to boost the number of Platinum cards.  :-[

The community Stretch goals are the incsentive to keep buying more! Sure you could get all the solo goals, but there is also the community goals as well! Which are even tougher to get!

Oh totally missed that, hype hype lol



Ranked will be reset with the release of Order.

More info plis? I would like some reason to be hyped about this since its on the hype thread ::)

http://steamcommunity.com/app/257730/discussions/0/617319460932873618/ (http://steamcommunity.com/app/257730/discussions/0/617319460932873618/)
This is where I found Teremus said there is placement reward, wonder in what form.
 :o
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Winsanity on November 21, 2014, 02:59:30 AM
Working on making stretch goats. Please send more red wine.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/31/article-1203459-05E7C259000005DC-976_634x386.jpg)
Oh my god. I laughed so hard at this my dad asked me what was wrong
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: ucardmaster on November 21, 2014, 03:02:03 AM
Working on making stretch goats. Please send more red wine.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/31/article-1203459-05E7C259000005DC-976_634x386.jpg)

This post totally needs a "like" button!!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Chaz8591 on November 21, 2014, 03:07:31 AM
Important Notes: Order cards will NOT be tournament legal until December 19th, 12AM IWT.


You mean ranked legal right? Or did you just leak a bigger piece of information than we all thought?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 03:10:12 AM
I support the stretch goat.

Also, I just updated the OP with a Stationary/Active pic of the Deck effect.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Kevkas on November 21, 2014, 03:16:47 AM
Also, I just updated the OP with a Stationary/Active pic of the Deck effect.

Looks MUCH better. :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: trivialpursuit on November 21, 2014, 03:34:22 AM
I support the stretch goat.

Also, I just updated the OP with a Stationary/Active pic of the Deck effect.

Thanks, that helps :P

The more I look at the alt art pics, the more disappointed I feel. I thought card art was improving with Ascension but for whatever reason that doesn't seem to be the case. Case in point, the original Banish is superior to the new one.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Chaz8591 on November 21, 2014, 03:38:15 AM
The more I look at the alt art pics, the more disappointed I feel. I thought card art was improving with Ascension but for whatever reason that doesn't seem to be the case. Case in point, the original Banish is superior to the new one.

I agree with the alt arts feeling like a let down, but we don't know what the animations look like (I really hope those are just bad screenshots). But overall the cards that have been previewed on Moose's stream have impressed me with their art, so I believe the core cards of the set will look phenomenal.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Adorabear on November 21, 2014, 05:54:47 AM
Is it true that 90% of money spent on pre-orders goes towards feeding stretch goats?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Memlok on November 21, 2014, 06:05:37 AM
Could the alien avatar perhaps be a sneaky spoiler for a new future faction? :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: SDSakuragi on November 21, 2014, 06:08:19 AM
Is it true that 90% of money spent on pre-orders goes towards feeding stretch goats?

Lies! It's only 88.2%.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: ORISOLVE on November 21, 2014, 06:08:51 AM
Ian is awesome! I didn't know he could draw.  ;D I like your choice of text color in this post, Schumi.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 06:24:05 AM
Ian is awesome! I didn't know he could draw.  ;D I like your choice of text color in this post, Schumi.

He can't draw, that's why we all want this milestone to be hit.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Shimrra3 on November 21, 2014, 06:32:48 AM
He can't draw, that's why we all want this milestone to be hit.

+1
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BunnyStark on November 21, 2014, 06:44:46 AM
Ian is awesome! I didn't know he could draw.  ;D I like your choice of text color in this post, Schumi.

He can't draw, that's why we all want this milestone to be hit.

LMAO
Now I even wanted more of the community goat stretch to be reached
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: ohaz on November 21, 2014, 07:03:47 AM
December 12th? That's my birthday! Will I get a few packs for free? :D
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Memlok on November 21, 2014, 08:04:04 AM
Ian is awesome! I didn't know he could draw.  ;D I like your choice of text color in this post, Schumi.

He can't draw, that's why we all want this milestone to be hit.

I want that stick figure to be animated! xD
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: ceces on November 21, 2014, 09:05:44 AM
n...no exile alt art?!


(◕‿◕✿) Exile Alt Art OR Peaceful Protest (◕‿◕✿) http://i.imgur.com/MA0FRYo.png
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Apostroph on November 21, 2014, 09:31:33 AM
Sry, i dont get it...


Quote
-   All purchasing bonuses are not soulbound.

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however it is very important to remember that the alternate art stretch goals are soulbound

What bonis are there, which are not soulbound? All the other stuff is not tradeable anyways.
Or am i wrong?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: mik1o on November 21, 2014, 09:37:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/QqMXnVB.jpg)

I'll just leave this here
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 21, 2014, 09:52:17 AM
Sry, i dont get it...


Quote
-   All purchasing bonuses are not soulbound.

Quote
however it is very important to remember that the alternate art stretch goals are soulbound

What bonis are there, which are not soulbound? All the other stuff is not tradeable anyways.
Or am i wrong?

The Noble Protector alt art is not soulbound.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: PeliKan on November 21, 2014, 09:55:11 AM
I buy 5 packs order pre-oreder before that post was show and when I buy next 5 packs order pre-order I get " Buy a 10 pack: Double Gun Cardback and also receive 1 extra copy of all unlocked alternate stretch goal art." ?  You can cancel the purchase of these 5 packs and buy 10 packs ?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 09:58:56 AM
I buy 5 packs order pre-oreder before that post was show and when I buy next 5 packs order pre-order I get " Buy a 10 pack: Double Gun Cardback and also receive 1 extra copy of all unlocked alternate stretch goal art." ?  You can cancel the purchase of these 5 packs and buy 10 packs ?

The post also goes on to state that we're more than happy to combine packs if you reach out to the provided address.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 10:01:49 AM
Quote
What bonis are there, which are not soulbound? All the other stuff is not tradeable anyways.
Or am i wrong?

The bonuses are soulbound. The Noble Protector Alt Art, which is part of a purchased package, is not soulbound.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Rawonall on November 21, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
Quote
What bonis are there, which are not soulbound? All the other stuff is not tradeable anyways.
Or am i wrong?

The bonuses are soulbound. The Noble Protector Alt Art, which is part of a purchased package, is not soulbound.

So, if somebody wants to buy 100 packs, he can either but 1x50 and 2x25 getting the deck effect and 3 Noble protectors (plus 7 additional copies of each soulbound stretch goal card) or 4x25, getting no deck effect, 4 Noble protectors and 8 additional copies of s.b. cards.
Buying 2x50 would be pointless, as one will just get 1 less noble protector and 1 less copy of soulbound cards than buying 1x50 and 2x25.

Is it right?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Vertu Honagan on November 21, 2014, 10:12:16 AM
n...no exile alt art?!


(◕‿◕✿) Exile Alt Art OR Peaceful Protest (◕‿◕✿) http://i.imgur.com/MA0FRYo.png

Alt Art Tygrugh! <3
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: trivialpursuit on November 21, 2014, 10:16:22 AM
Quote
What bonis are there, which are not soulbound? All the other stuff is not tradeable anyways.
Or am i wrong?

The bonuses are soulbound. The Noble Protector Alt Art, which is part of a purchased package, is not soulbound.

So, if somebody wants to buy 100 packs, he can either but 1x50 and 2x25 getting the deck effect and 3 Noble protectors (plus 7 additional copies of each soulbound stretch goal card) or 4x25, getting no deck effect, 4 Noble protectors and 8 additional copies of s.b. cards.
Buying 2x50 would be pointless, as one will just get 1 less noble protector and 1 less copy of soulbound cards than buying 1x50 and 2x25.

Is it right?

Is this true? Because I just bought 2x50....
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Approximo on November 21, 2014, 12:56:54 PM
The glorious warrior alt art is cool but a bit strange considering he is about to be shot in the head. Not really my idea of glory but... artistic licence I guess?

All in all very hype. Seems like there is something for everyone here :)

Remember that we haven't seen the animation yet though, so I think it will work out in the end. Maybe he'll use that sword to reflect bullets or something :)

Edit: Just noticed that the alt arts seem to tell a story together.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: TjMellows on November 21, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
Soooooooo pysched! can i buy these packs with LP and IP?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: KillerOrc on November 21, 2014, 01:05:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/QqMXnVB.jpg)

I'll just leave this here

I just love the stretch goat!! I think the goat wants to be on the HYPE TRAIN!!!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: TjMellows on November 21, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
And i just noticed the Noble defender or whatever just saved glorius warrior.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: KillerOrc on November 21, 2014, 01:26:46 PM
Is it true that 90% of money spent on pre-orders goes towards feeding stretch goats?

Lies! It's only 88.2%.

Sorry to disappoint you guys, but we all know that the answer to life the universe and everything is 42. So 42% is how much they will spend on feeding the stretch goats...

True story...
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: KillerOrc on November 21, 2014, 01:37:58 PM
Also I think that the Stained Glass Cardback should be given out to ppl who has bought 50 or maybe 25 packs of cards even if we don´t reach the stretch goat (which we are feeding btw). It is just to nice looking to not make it into the game!

Shame on you if the goat does not provide us with this excellent card back!
If the goat is to greedy you really need to give it out to ppl who has bought more packs. Or possible give it out to us as a Christmas present! We need that card back.
I will most  probably not be able to play this game without that card back because I would feel insecure and would not be able to face my opponents which would end in 100% auto concede in every match BibleThump

This would be horrible scenario because I love to play this game. True story...
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Approximo on November 21, 2014, 01:44:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/QqMXnVB.jpg)

I'll just leave this here

I just love the stretch goat!! I think the goat wants to be on the HYPE TRAIN!!!

I imagine the Stretch Goat being a Genesis/Warpath animatronic with stretchy robotic parts. Make it happen Lightmare! :P
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: goobypls on November 21, 2014, 02:25:36 PM
lol I only realize now that the alt arts present a story of the shield guy trying to protect the Glorious Warrior from getting killed by the angel (or the other way around?). That's pretty cool. Maybe the shield guy is gonna be some Flame Dawn character that gives another character untouchable or something? Although we already have such a card with Protector of the Dawn I believe. I wonder what FD's position will be towards the Overseers. They might see the Overseers as a new threat, rather than an ally. I believe I heard some things about it, but I can't quite remember.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: NatoPotato on November 21, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/QqMXnVB.jpg)

I'll just leave this here

I just love the stretch goat!! I think the goat wants to be on the HYPE TRAIN!!!

I imagine the Stretch Goat being a Genesis/Warpath animatronic with stretchy robotic parts. Make it happen Lightmare! :P

 8)

(http://i.imgur.com/q3Cn4D2.jpg)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Chaz8591 on November 21, 2014, 02:51:36 PM
Every "stretch goat" post makes me all
(http://i.imgur.com/IuhQcR5.jpg)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Pixelei on November 21, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
I feel all tingly now. 25 pack, YEAH \o/
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Shimrra3 on November 21, 2014, 04:29:17 PM
I'm just going to do my usual last-minute splurge. Already surpassed the biggest pack so I don't even need to be on time to get them combined like last time.

What. I like big numbers.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: comradbrody on November 21, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
Smiling from ear to ear.  ;D
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 07:57:02 PM
Quote
What bonis are there, which are not soulbound? All the other stuff is not tradeable anyways.
Or am i wrong?

The bonuses are soulbound. The Noble Protector Alt Art, which is part of a purchased package, is not soulbound.

So, if somebody wants to buy 100 packs, he can either but 1x50 and 2x25 getting the deck effect and 3 Noble protectors (plus 7 additional copies of each soulbound stretch goal card) or 4x25, getting no deck effect, 4 Noble protectors and 8 additional copies of s.b. cards.
Buying 2x50 would be pointless, as one will just get 1 less noble protector and 1 less copy of soulbound cards than buying 1x50 and 2x25.

Is it right?

Yup, that's accurate.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 21, 2014, 08:24:14 PM
In terms of marketing, why is it that lightmare has capped their preorder incentives at 1 50 pack, with only more 25 packs offering a benefit? Wouldn;t it be more beneficial and lucrative to offer something more? This is the third preorder with this structure of rewards, I feel like there could be something more on the individual level. Thoughts?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 21, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
In terms of marketing, why is it that lightmare has capped their preorder incentives at 1 50 pack, with only more 25 packs offering a benefit? Wouldn;t it be more beneficial and lucrative to offer something more? This is the third preorder with this structure of rewards, I feel like there could be something more on the individual level. Thoughts?

It's a sentiment that I've pressed internally, I can assure you that's heard. We're talking about what we can do to "Grow" the incentives on a linear level rather than a desire based progression.

There's other things I'd like to see happen in the next pre-order as well, but hey, we gotta keep learning and growing.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 21, 2014, 08:45:36 PM
Why not something like, once you get above 50 preorders, every additional 10-15 boosters would reward that person with something small. Like a token for an ingame avatar or card back.
Personally something like , after 50, for every 10 more you buy, you get 1 extra pack free.
This type of structure would encouraged further purchases on a micro level in incremental amounts while not really giving up much more in return. It would probably sway those on the fence to buy some more. That way, customers feel like they are benefiting in a meaningful way with more and more orders, instead of just 1 extra copy of an alt art.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: GuruZeus on November 22, 2014, 07:32:46 AM

hire artists, plz :( my eyes are so bleeding ...

its always fishy to make People buy stuff in masses for bonuses and not the stuff itself ...

stay fresh
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 22, 2014, 09:50:57 AM
its always fishy to make People buy stuff in masses for bonuses and not the stuff itself ...

I'm sorry what? You're pre-ordering the actual Order packs, I don't really see how that's not the stuff itself.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: KillerOrc on November 22, 2014, 02:08:24 PM
How is the stretch goat doing? Are we feeding him enough and how far has he walked? Has he reached any of the milestones yet or is he/she a bit lazy?

Would be nice if you for example could describe his journey in the first post so we know which milestones he has passed etc. And we all want to know how well a stretch goat can walk...
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: DrayGon777 on November 22, 2014, 04:14:23 PM
(http://comicattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Solomon_Grund_-_Super_Friends_02.jpg)
Solomon Grundy want Stretch Goat stories too!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Approximo on November 22, 2014, 04:20:26 PM
Why not something like, once you get above 50 preorders, every additional 10-15 boosters would reward that person with something small. Like a token for an ingame avatar or card back.
Personally something like , after 50, for every 10 more you buy, you get 1 extra pack free.
This type of structure would encouraged further purchases on a micro level in incremental amounts while not really giving up much more in return. It would probably sway those on the fence to buy some more. That way, customers feel like they are benefiting in a meaningful way with more and more orders, instead of just 1 extra copy of an alt art.

This. Would so love what you just said.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Approximo on November 22, 2014, 04:21:53 PM
its always fishy to make People buy stuff in masses for bonuses and not the stuff itself ...

I'm sorry what? You're pre-ordering the actual Order packs, I don't really see how that's not the stuff itself.

I'm in it for the cards, the other bonuses are just that; a bonus.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 22, 2014, 08:42:36 PM
its always fishy to make People buy stuff in masses for bonuses and not the stuff itself ...

I'm sorry what? You're pre-ordering the actual Order packs, I don't really see how that's not the stuff itself.

I'm in it for the cards, the other bonuses are just that; a bonus.

Double checking that this was a response to GuruZeus, right? Haha
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Approximo on November 22, 2014, 10:45:04 PM
its always fishy to make People buy stuff in masses for bonuses and not the stuff itself ...

I'm sorry what? You're pre-ordering the actual Order packs, I don't really see how that's not the stuff itself.

I'm in it for the cards, the other bonuses are just that; a bonus.

Double checking that this was a response to GuruZeus, right? Haha

Yes, exactly. Just adding my voice to the discussion :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Mysterion on November 23, 2014, 07:03:17 PM
I will admit that the bonuses do not seem as good this time. I like the card backs, but that is about it. The rest feel way under quality compared to the other past rewards and art, especially the alt arts.

The reward system for releases in general could use some tweaking. For one I feel the bonuses should go by the total packs that you buy not how many you buy at once. What is the difference if someone buys X number of packs at once with IP or LP or if they buy a few here and there, grind a little then buy a few more. Then maybe they decide to spend a little more closer to release after watching a stream or reading a post totaling the same X number of packs or maybe even more? In this case a bunch of free bonus material. Lightmare is getting their money (if they spent any) anyway so why should those people be punished/inconvenienced who buy in smaller increments or be forced to send e-mails by a certain date in order to get the same thing someone else can get by buying a large chunk at a time. I think this will hurt sales in the long run as some players may feel cheated (not saying I do/was/am).

If this is being worked on then that is great. If not I really feel it should be.

Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 23, 2014, 07:29:14 PM
Out of all the possible rewards, the only one that stands out to me as something I would use is the redhead avatar ( alien one looks high quality too). Everything else feels sort of lackluster and low quality compared to previous ones.
Look at the angel of virtue and plaguebearer alt arts, both are very well done and high quality and unique. Both are cards that are iconic and playable, so they become very sought after, it feels rewarding to have in your collection.
The alt arts of radariah and angelify are REALLY good, and super well done, even if you don't like the stylistic choice, they are pretty amazing artworks, with great visual effects (reflections op).
Of the 3 presented in this set, all 3 feature stylistic cartoonish strokes that are very noticeable. The glorious warrior one looks the most polished, but its on a common card, in an underused faction.
The banish one... like idk man, crotch bulges are hot right now? Comparing to the orignal banish, this looks very low quality, like the first one is pretty detailed and colorful.
Same cartoony look for the new card for 25 packs. If i had to guess its a hybrid of fd and dod, or one of those. Either way, unless this card is super op and good in the new set, it doesn't feel very good to get this for large preorders.
I could be wrong, all 3 could have mind blowing animations, they could be nice alt arts to get. But just going from what I see and what previous preorders have shown, these are pretty underwhelming. I would personally rather wait another month to get well done artwork than getting them soonish. I highly doubt anything will change, but these are my thoughts as a customer.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BlackLightning on November 23, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
Is Pat Boiteux still a part of the team for the card art/animations? He has the most of my favourite artwork in the game.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: schumisaurus on November 23, 2014, 10:23:26 PM
Is Pat Boiteux still a part of the team for the card art/animations? He has the most of my favourite artwork in the game.

He sure is. He drew the alien avatar, black and white cardback and the Glorious Warrior.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Shimrra3 on November 24, 2014, 01:16:47 AM
Since I've not yet chimed in on the subject, the alt art ...

...
The banish one... like idk man, crotch bulges are hot right now? Comparing to the orignal banish, this looks very low quality, like the first one is pretty detailed and colorful.
...

Well, its all been explained already. Card backs good, alt art not so good unless we see evidence otherwise.

I also second the opinion that we shouldn't have to figure out the most efficient way to get our packs and bonuses and whatnot - it should just be 'get as much as you can = best rewards'. I realize this isn't necessarily doable but it'd be better.


To be honest though, I'm basically still in a state of hype.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Vertu Honagan on November 24, 2014, 01:41:48 AM
Is Pat Boiteux still a part of the team for the card art/animations? He has the most of my favourite artwork in the game.

He sure is. He drew the alien avatar, black and white cardback and the Glorious Warrior.

When I first saw the new Glorious warrior, my thoughts were...Meh. But then the more I look at it the better it gets! Especially the sword. I have a feeling it will be an awesome glowing green sword when animated. That's my kind of color of green and I wish to see a faction with that color as a border!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: trivialpursuit on November 24, 2014, 02:56:56 AM
The reward system for releases in general could use some tweaking. For one I feel the bonuses should go by the total packs that you buy not how many you buy at once. What is the difference if someone buys X number of packs at once with IP or LP or if they buy a few here and there, grind a little then buy a few more. Then maybe they decide to spend a little more closer to release after watching a stream or reading a post totaling the same X number of packs or maybe even more? In this case a bunch of free bonus material. Lightmare is getting their money (if they spent any) anyway so why should those people be punished/inconvenienced who buy in smaller increments or be forced to send e-mails by a certain date in order to get the same thing someone else can get by buying a large chunk at a time. I think this will hurt sales in the long run as some players may feel cheated (not saying I do/was/am).

If this is being worked on then that is great. If not I really feel it should be.

+1. I feel I am getting ripped off slightly for getting 2x 50 packs instead of 1x 50 and 2x 25, because the rewards add up differently. I mean, seriously? I pay the same amount, but get different goods. It's like going to a fast food restaurant and buying things separately because you can save a few cents. I don't want to be counting my pennies, just give me what is fair.

I wouldn't mind seeing something like individual milestones where individuals could unlock bonuses based on packs bought. Then this wouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 24, 2014, 03:06:05 AM
Guys just leave your feedback. There's no need to feel ripped off or anything of the kind, we're listening to your feedback and will find a way to address it with the next system implementation.

There's nothing we can do for this one as it's already started, but we will evaluate all of this and have a meeting once this insanity is over and look at how we can improve it overall.

Thank you.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: DrayGon777 on November 24, 2014, 03:29:15 AM
Yeah, Lightmare is usually pretty good at working with us so that we get the better end of the rewards spectrum, hence the ability to e-mail about combining purchased packs. Out of all the games I beta tested for the various companies I've played the beta tests of, Lightmare has been the most understanding and willing to work with us in these situations. They even beat out ArenaNet (Guild Wars 2) which I thought they were pretty amazing as well.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Memlok on November 24, 2014, 06:16:20 AM
Out of all the possible rewards, the only one that stands out to me as something I would use is the redhead avatar ( alien one looks high quality too). Everything else feels sort of lackluster and low quality compared to previous ones.
Look at the angel of virtue and plaguebearer alt arts, both are very well done and high quality and unique. Both are cards that are iconic and playable, so they become very sought after, it feels rewarding to have in your collection.
The alt arts of radariah and angelify are REALLY good, and super well done, even if you don't like the stylistic choice, they are pretty amazing artworks, with great visual effects (reflections op).
Of the 3 presented in this set, all 3 feature stylistic cartoonish strokes that are very noticeable. The glorious warrior one looks the most polished, but its on a common card, in an underused faction.
The banish one... like idk man, crotch bulges are hot right now? Comparing to the orignal banish, this looks very low quality, like the first one is pretty detailed and colorful.
Same cartoony look for the new card for 25 packs. If i had to guess its a hybrid of fd and dod, or one of those. Either way, unless this card is super op and good in the new set, it doesn't feel very good to get this for large preorders.
I could be wrong, all 3 could have mind blowing animations, they could be nice alt arts to get. But just going from what I see and what previous preorders have shown, these are pretty underwhelming. I would personally rather wait another month to get well done artwork than getting them soonish. I highly doubt anything will change, but these are my thoughts as a customer.

I disagree, first of all we have to see the full animation of alt cards to judge them and even than it is a matter of taste and taste can't be debated and the 3rd milestone card back is puffying gorgeous! :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: trivialpursuit on November 24, 2014, 10:47:40 AM
and the 3rd milestone card back is puffying gorgeous! :)

Some would argue with that :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: 3Sleeper on November 24, 2014, 11:10:39 AM
i dont think there is a problem posting all the cards that are on the 1st page with their animations instead of just still images,is there?

whats the point to show people still images of animated cards if people cant judge the card correctly cause its a still image...

btw Banish is horrible if thats all there is too it,if there is an animation that mitigates the "private parts" then it will be ok but we cant know that without seeing the full card
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 24, 2014, 08:43:27 PM
i dont think there is a problem posting all the cards that are on the 1st page with their animations instead of just still images,is there?

whats the point to show people still images of animated cards if people cant judge the card correctly cause its a still image...

btw Banish is horrible if thats all there is too it,if there is an animation that mitigates the "private parts" then it will be ok but we cant know that without seeing the full card


Well, you know, the forums don't actually support posting an image of that nature within such a large text format. We don't have our own pre-built forums so it's not something we can conjure up.

One thing I will say, however, is that the Banish artwork is getting improved.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on November 24, 2014, 09:17:32 PM
I have a new question.
Will the new deck effect impair visuals of the cardback to a large degree? The images kinda seem like they cover almost the entire thing.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 24, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
I wouldn't know. I only have the image I posted, it's not actually programmed in yet.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Kevkas on November 25, 2014, 12:40:00 AM
One thing I will say, however, is that the Banish artwork is getting improved.

That's good to hear, improvement in art is always welcomed. :)

Will the new deck effect impair visuals of the cardback to a large degree? The images kinda seem like they cover almost the entire thing.

I was wondering the exact same thing, the deck effect looks cool, but it would be a shame if it covered the beautiful card backs that will be unlocked with the stretch goats.

I wouldn't know. I only have the image I posted, it's not actually programmed in yet.

If that's the case, and if the programmer in charge of it is open to suggestions, could you ask him to try to find a balance between the deck effect animation and allowing the art from the cardback to be shown in all its glory? :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on November 25, 2014, 12:51:37 AM
I already have. :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Mysterion on November 25, 2014, 04:45:53 AM
Thanks for the responses as always Moose. One thing I will say about Lightmare is the company works with its players probably the most out of any company I have ever seen (as far as gaming goes). +1 to moose and Lightmare!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Kevkas on November 25, 2014, 02:54:58 PM
I already have. :)

Thanks! :)

Thanks for the responses as always Moose. One thing I will say about Lightmare is the company works with its players probably the most out of any company I have ever seen (as far as gaming goes). +1 to moose and Lightmare!

Yes, I agree, it's actually one of the stronger points of Infinity Wars as a product, the fact that it has an open-minded and dedicated team behind is a big plus, can't really say that about most other game developer companies.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: electro13 on November 25, 2014, 05:19:34 PM
HYPE2REAL!   Loving that 3rd cardback. Can't wait for the 12th.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: KillerOrc on November 27, 2014, 08:12:06 PM
I already have. :)

Thanks! :)

Thanks for the responses as always Moose. One thing I will say about Lightmare is the company works with its players probably the most out of any company I have ever seen (as far as gaming goes). +1 to moose and Lightmare!

Yes, I agree, it's actually one of the stronger points of Infinity Wars as a product, the fact that it has an open-minded and dedicated team behind is a big plus, can't really say that about most other game developer companies.

+1

Btw, if Ian won´t get alt art for war machine could you please supply me with a time machine? I want the 12th to be here already!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Vertu Honagan on November 28, 2014, 12:51:44 AM
I already have. :)

Thanks! :)

Thanks for the responses as always Moose. One thing I will say about Lightmare is the company works with its players probably the most out of any company I have ever seen (as far as gaming goes). +1 to moose and Lightmare!

Yes, I agree, it's actually one of the stronger points of Infinity Wars as a product, the fact that it has an open-minded and dedicated team behind is a big plus, can't really say that about most other game developer companies.

+1

Btw, if Ian won´t get alt art for war machine could you please supply me with a time machine? I want the 12th to be here already!

The 12th will be a very exciting day, but to be honest, the 2nd is even more exciting for me! Kingdom Hearts 2.5 Hype anyone?! <3 After my hype of Kingdom Hearts is gone, I can actually get hyped up for Order! :D
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Symphony on November 28, 2014, 10:15:12 AM
I'm terribly late for the hype train, but RL's been a puffy the last few weeks.

Anyway, as some other people in the thread have already voiced, the art in the current avatars/alt arts is a bit weird. I'm not entirely against it, as I see them more of an attempt to do a different visual style.
I do like this cartoony/unpolished style in many forms of media (Shadowfall art is the one that comes to mind right away), but they're a bit out of place considering the rest of IW's art. But oh well, I can just hope you guys redo that crotch on Banish's alt art and I'll be overall happy with the rewards :v

As for my preorders, idk. I'm really trying to aim at 30 packs (the 20 during ascension was barely enough to get me a full playset of commons/uncommons/rares), but I'm not sure I'll have the time to farm will all those finals coming up :/
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Coolcor on November 28, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
Novablue got to spoil some cards today!

http://www.twitch.tv/novablue353/b/593577986?t=2h5m
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BlackLightning on November 28, 2014, 07:57:16 PM
Novablue got to spoil some cards today!

http://www.twitch.tv/novablue353/b/593577986?t=2h5m
Thanks for the link mate!

The Swarmer Queen is actually a Warpath card. I could see the logic behind it. Neat stuff!

Edit: So in their current states, Flame Dawn Hound is going to be a hell of a threat, Avatar of Daode seems a little iffy (too costly) and Caretaker of the Swarm as well as Genesis Spy are awesome.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heaven-Canceler on November 28, 2014, 09:17:05 PM
Novablue got to spoil some cards today!

http://www.twitch.tv/novablue353/b/593577986?t=2h5m
Thanks for the link mate!

The Swarmer Queen is actually a Warpath card. I could see the logic behind it. Neat stuff!

Edit: So in their current states, Flame Dawn Hound is going to be a hell of a threat, Avatar of Daode seems a little iffy (too costly) and Caretaker of the Swarm as well as Genesis Spy are awesome.

I can see Avatar becoming a fun Sleeper Combo since it is Double Purity, it would basically be the DoD Dragon Resurrection. You could even get out multiple with Awaken/Raise Dead I think.

Otherwise I guess it works simply as a lategame threat for the enemy, forcing them to put work into taking down your defence Zone and hitting your fortress where they would otherwise stall and build up power.

Not as awesome as I personally would have liked though since it doesn't give any health buffs.

I hope DoD gets some good 6 cost and higher Drops. They really Need more viable Cards.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Valfodr on November 28, 2014, 09:21:11 PM
WTS LEFT TESTICLE FOR STAINED GLASS CARDBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: BlackLightning on November 28, 2014, 10:08:06 PM
Novablue got to spoil some cards today!

http://www.twitch.tv/novablue353/b/593577986?t=2h5m
Thanks for the link mate!

The Swarmer Queen is actually a Warpath card. I could see the logic behind it. Neat stuff!

Edit: So in their current states, Flame Dawn Hound is going to be a hell of a threat, Avatar of Daode seems a little iffy (too costly) and Caretaker of the Swarm as well as Genesis Spy are awesome.

I can see Avatar becoming a fun Sleeper Combo since it is Double Purity, it would basically be the DoD Dragon Resurrection. You could even get out multiple with Awaken/Raise Dead I think.

Otherwise I guess it works simply as a lategame threat for the enemy, forcing them to put work into taking down your defence Zone and hitting your fortress where they would otherwise stall and build up power.

Not as awesome as I personally would have liked though since it doesn't give any health buffs.

I hope DoD gets some good 6 cost and higher Drops. They really Need more viable Cards.
I don't see how that would work too well because you'd be missing Fight to get the avatar in the grave early. Otherwise, you would be heavily depending on fill the graves. Good players simply won't snipe Avatar from command when they take notice of the Sleeper splash.

The more natural synergy that came to mind for me is Warpath. You get the ramp going all while putting out some beasts and some vigilance defence to fend off a rush. Put Aleta-Daode-Yuanshi in command and your characters can tank out some wraths and yuanshi's ability. You could also have Matriarch in there and rotate your defence.

I'm definitely going to try out this splash when Order is out and name the deck Monolith. You've seen it here first.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: DrayGon777 on November 28, 2014, 11:42:59 PM
I'm always for attempting a WP/DoD deck. XD Currently, only one I have is a shrine deck, least with 2 purity DoD.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Logadd on November 29, 2014, 05:37:07 AM
FD Hound is meh, i don't see why FD gets another 2 drop in same niche as Fleeting and Paladin instead of some variance, it's playable but not really good.
If caretaker of swarm can exhaust from command and exhaust command(it doesn't say deployed insectoid) it's pretty good, overwise close to unplayble with morale cost that high and base health that low.
Avatar of Daode is unplayable and basically defense golem for 11 without reach.
Genesis spy may be fun concept, but he isn't artificial and his stats are trash, so he is unplayable aswell.

It of course may change depending on other cards in the set. Avatar of Daode is pretty boring comparing to what was discussed on how it can be, kinda sad what caretaker of swarm doesn't allow swarmers from all factions to be run in one deck.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: trivialpursuit on November 29, 2014, 05:41:11 AM
Yeah that Avatar of Daode... I don't see it getting ANY use in its current state. So, you get to 11 resources, place it to your support zone, and next turn attempt to defend with it. Okay, so what. They can stumble, use a skill spell, etc and you get hit in the face anyways. It doesn't have any other effect to help you win like Avatar of Lingbao does, so what's the point of using it? Maybe crazy synergies with other Order cards? I really hope so because I was looking forward to all the Avatar cards.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Coolcor on November 29, 2014, 05:53:42 AM
Yeah that Avatar of Daode... I don't see it getting ANY use in its current state. So, you get to 11 resources, place it to your support zone, and next turn attempt to defend with it. Okay, so what. They can stumble, use a skill spell, etc and you get hit in the face anyways. It doesn't have any other effect to help you win like Avatar of Lingbao does, so what's the point of using it? Maybe crazy synergies with other Order cards? I really hope so because I was looking forward to all the Avatar cards.

I think you are supposed to use it with balance to give it a big attack as well. It is a lot of hoops to jump through to get a big guy. Maybe there will be other cards that become good if you have a guy with massive defense in the command zone.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: trivialpursuit on November 29, 2014, 06:43:15 AM
Yeah that Avatar of Daode... I don't see it getting ANY use in its current state. So, you get to 11 resources, place it to your support zone, and next turn attempt to defend with it. Okay, so what. They can stumble, use a skill spell, etc and you get hit in the face anyways. It doesn't have any other effect to help you win like Avatar of Lingbao does, so what's the point of using it? Maybe crazy synergies with other Order cards? I really hope so because I was looking forward to all the Avatar cards.

I think you are supposed to use it with balance to give it a big attack as well. It is a lot of hoops to jump through to get a big guy. Maybe there will be other cards that become good if you have a guy with massive defense in the command zone.

I'd much rather get a Defense Golem or A. of Lingbao in and use balance on that. Plus the same applies that if you kill the A. of Daode or push it into support, it does nothing (in fact it can hurt you as killing it deals 15 dmg to fortress instead), all this for 11 cost (13 with balance). For 12 cost, a flying dragon with unstoppable would be preferred I would think.

I hope for some synergies that are stronger than balance to justify an 11 cost, but based on Nova's stream, it didn't sound like a promising card in any context. He just dismissed it as crap, so I don't expect to see anything in Order that will be make this card good.

Maybe now would be a good time to change its effect.. anyways I'll stop here. Don't want to spoil the fun for others and perhaps the devs have a reason for making this card.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: KillerOrc on November 30, 2014, 09:19:39 AM
Good posts guys, keep them coming off you think some of the really cool new order cards needs a change. I'm sure Mr. moose is listening to us :)

And I agree with the new Avatar, also hope that the craretaker will be useful. Is hate for that very fun card that can make swarmers fun and viable to be un useful.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: KillerOrc on November 30, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
WTS LEFT TESTICLE FOR STAINED GLASS CARDBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Same here! I can't beat your offer since I need at least one...
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Memlok on November 30, 2014, 11:00:55 PM
Good posts guys, keep them coming off you think some of the really cool new order cards needs a change. I'm sure Mr. moose is listening to us :)

And I agree with the new Avatar, also hope that the craretaker will be useful. Is hate for that very fun card that can make swarmers fun and viable to be un useful.

Caretaker + Lord, I see me making an insect deck in the future. :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: electro13 on November 30, 2014, 11:03:31 PM
Good posts guys, keep them coming off you think some of the really cool new order cards needs a change. I'm sure Mr. moose is listening to us :)

And I agree with the new Avatar, also hope that the craretaker will be useful. Is hate for that very fun card that can make swarmers fun and viable to be un useful.

Caretaker + Lord, I see me making an insect deck in the future. :)

Survival swarmers are gonna skyrocket, since with the lord you cant even have abilities, and even with 3 of each insect you'll need like at least 10 survivals.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Kevkas on December 01, 2014, 12:01:04 AM
Survival swarmers are gonna skyrocket, since with the lord you cant even have abilities, and even with 3 of each insect you'll need like at least 10 survivals.

True, although I think it will be more like 15-20 survivals probably, but still.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Clearbeard on December 02, 2014, 01:01:56 AM
Well, we have 8 different factions with swarmers, once Overseers gets theirs with Order.  So that's 24 cards.  Plus 3 each of Broodlord and Broodmother brings us to 30.  So yes, a minimum of 10 unlimited swarmers with the cards we know about to even make a legal deck.  That makes me sad, as I only have 5 (out of a 5000 card collection no less).  If only they were as common in packs as they are in rift run choices!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on December 02, 2014, 01:04:14 AM
Well, we have 8 different factions with swarmers, once Overseers gets theirs with Order.  So that's 24 cards.  Plus 3 each of Broodlord and Broodmother brings us to 30.  So yes, a minimum of 10 unlimited swarmers with the cards we know about to even make a legal deck.  That makes me sad, as I only have 5 (out of a 5000 card collection no less).  If only they were as common in packs as they are in rift run choices!

man if only i didnt trade away most of my unlimited swarmer cards :(
think i only have like 4, idk, i might have traded them all away.

Can't wait though if they make  a swarmer deck a free week deck like for uncontrolled rifts.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Benionin on December 02, 2014, 03:34:11 AM
Remember how people said they wouldn't play Tranquil Swarmer even if there were a way to play Swarmers regardless of Purity?

What do you guys think now?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on December 02, 2014, 05:54:30 AM
Just so everyone is aware, I know a few of you that have emailed me are getting a little antsy and wondering why your packs haven't been combined yet.

I'm currently awaiting our admin tools to be optimized so that I can actually do this properly for everyone, that will be completed this week and once it is I'll be responding to everyone's emails and getting them combined.

Patience. :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Thechynd on December 02, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
Remember how people said they wouldn't play Tranquil Swarmer even if there were a way to play Swarmers regardless of Purity?

What do you guys think now?
At 4 resources for a 6/6 with an almost worthless ability, I say I'd still prefer using some extra survival swarmers to playing tranquil swarmer. Especially as there are already several other swarmers at that resource cost, so its hurting your curve. If they wanted a swarmer that influences morale costs then they really should have made it like protector of the dead or at least have it reduce morale cost by more than 1.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: SDSakuragi on December 02, 2014, 04:55:11 PM
Patience. :)

"Patience"!? Teremus is making up words again...  :'(
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: DrayGon777 on December 02, 2014, 05:10:40 PM
Patience. :)

"Patience"!? Teremus is making up words again...  :'(
Hate to break it to you, but I think that word actually exists. I found it in the dictionary and... you're not going to like it's meaning.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Clearbeard on December 02, 2014, 08:54:42 PM
Remember how people said they wouldn't play Tranquil Swarmer even if there were a way to play Swarmers regardless of Purity?

What do you guys think now?
At 4 resources for a 6/6 with an almost worthless ability, I say I'd still prefer using some extra survival swarmers to playing tranquil swarmer. Especially as there are already several other swarmers at that resource cost, so its hurting your curve. If they wanted a swarmer that influences morale costs then they really should have made it like protector of the dead or at least have it reduce morale cost by more than 1.

I think that in this all swarmer deck, tranquil swarmer's ability isn't quite as valueless, particularly when it stacks up to -3 morale if you get all 3 out.  On the other hand, 4 cost is rather steep.  It really needs either another 4 or so HP or 1 less cost.  I've heard that the Verore swarmer is going to be tweaked a bit with the Order patch, so perhaps Tranquil will be as well.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Heart on December 02, 2014, 10:04:10 PM
Tranquil still seems like the worst swarmer and would only come in handy in longer stalled out games. All the other swarmers have a lot of more impact, especially the buffing warpath ones and the infect ones.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Nehkrimah on December 03, 2014, 12:09:39 AM
If nothing else, Tranquil swarmers can be a sideboard option for against Morale Decks, so that's something, although I'll probably run some in my swarmer deck, just to see them in action
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Memlok on December 03, 2014, 03:19:55 PM
If nothing else, Tranquil swarmers can be a sideboard option for against Morale Decks, so that's something, although I'll probably run some in my swarmer deck, just to see them in action

They are a 6/6 cost 4 so yeah I will use them since one will only be able to use Swarmers with Swarmer Lord and say you have 20 Survivals, 3 Broodmothers, and 3 Swarmers from every faction that makes 24 more so you don't have that many options which Swarmer to kick out. :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: w4golf on December 03, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
Quite excited to see all of the new cards!  While there may be some that want to complain, have differences in opinion on balance, etc., as somebody who plays purely for fun, I think it gives me two things I really wanted.  A OS nerf (because they are boring to play, and play against, and making them struggle will hopefully make us all have to be a little more creative).  Swarmer viability!  I have two swarmer decks, they are very fun to play, but they lose an outstanding number of games compared to most of my other fun decks.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Caberman on December 03, 2014, 07:18:53 PM
Sooo......
Deck effect preview video pretty pls?  ::)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Benionin on December 03, 2014, 09:04:16 PM
By the way, Teremus, I love how you changed your forum signature to include the "I make this game, James" from the preview stream. That was a priceless moment.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on December 03, 2014, 09:47:55 PM
Hey, most hilarious internet things are spawned by moments like that.

Roll with the punches and life gets more entertaining.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Vertu Honagan on December 03, 2014, 10:06:52 PM
By the way, Teremus, I love how you changed your forum signature to include the "I make this game, James" from the preview stream. That was a priceless moment.

Then I guess I will have to watch that stream after Order is released to see what is being talked about. :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Approximo on December 04, 2014, 03:21:38 PM
One thing I don't get with the whole alt art triangle drama (Overseer-Glorious Warrior-Noble Protector), why is FD suddenly the defensive faction and DoD suddenly the defensively helpless one?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Chaz8591 on December 04, 2014, 04:32:45 PM
One thing I don't get with the whole alt art triangle drama (Overseer-Glorious Warrior-Noble Protector), why is FD suddenly the defensive faction and DoD suddenly the defensively helpless one?

Moose said that Noble protector wasn't protecting the Glorious warrior.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Approximo on December 05, 2014, 11:25:34 AM
Moose said that Noble protector wasn't protecting the Glorious warrior.

Well, that's intriguing.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Benionin on December 05, 2014, 02:01:03 PM
Yeah, cause the art kinda looks like the Noble Protector is in front of the Warrior (the helm looks similar), and his shield does take a hit in the animation (like a champ, if I must say) that looks like it could be coming from a lightblaster/lightcaster/whatever those guns are officially called.

Maybe the Noble Protector just has an obsessive urge to block every single blast he sees, not necessarily in order to protect someone but just to block the blast.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Nehkrimah on December 05, 2014, 09:47:41 PM
From memory, he did say the the Noble protector wasn't saving that glorious warrior, as he was already killed by the banish animation, but there's nothing saying (that I know of) that he isn't pretecting another warrior
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on December 06, 2014, 09:50:08 AM
Hello Everyone,

Another quick update on the pack merging.

I continue to get a lot of e-mails saying "Hey, time is almost running out, can you please merge these?". Allow me to address that.

Time is running out for you to REQUEST the merging, not for me to actually merge them. I have 3 days from when you are no longer able to request merging, and when the packs actually unlock.

I *will not, and cannot* merge anything prior to December 10th.

Your requests are sitting in my inbox, I can see them perfectly. I quite literally cannot do anything until the 10th.

Thank you for your patience.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: NikaSharkeh on December 06, 2014, 10:40:44 AM
By the way Teremus, what will be on today's weekly stream? Will you be showcasing moar Order previews?  :D
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on December 06, 2014, 11:01:06 AM
By the way Teremus, what will be on today's weekly stream? Will you be showcasing moar Order previews?  :D

Not likely, we're probably just going to have some fun and prep for Order.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Kevkas on December 06, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
Not likely, we're probably just going to have some fun and prep for Order.

Do some blind drafts, I missed those last week. :(
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: KillerOrc on December 07, 2014, 02:34:03 AM
What I missed this week, last week and every week before was winning a raffle Kappa

Great stream though :)
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: PeliKan on December 07, 2014, 11:11:47 AM
I sent email with request to marketing@lightmare.com.au to combine my packs 5x1Pack 1x5Pack 1x10Pack into 2x10Pack but I have not received a reply. I sent email about one week ago but for 2 day will be 9th December. Any leads ?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Qfasa on December 07, 2014, 12:17:41 PM
I sent email with request to marketing@lightmare.com.au to combine my packs 5x1Pack 1x5Pack 1x10Pack into 2x10Pack but I have not received a reply. I sent email about one week ago but for 2 day will be 9th December. Any leads ?

Hello Everyone,

Another quick update on the pack merging.

I continue to get a lot of e-mails saying "Hey, time is almost running out, can you please merge these?". Allow me to address that.

Time is running out for you to REQUEST the merging, not for me to actually merge them. I have 3 days from when you are no longer able to request merging, and when the packs actually unlock.

I *will not, and cannot* merge anything prior to December 10th.

Your requests are sitting in my inbox, I can see them perfectly. I quite literally cannot do anything until the 10th.

Thank you for your patience.

Your answer is literally just a few posts above your question. At the same page!
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Mysterion on December 09, 2014, 05:34:49 AM
I was going to try and order a few packs, but steam is not letting me. I cannot get the overlay to work for some reason anymore in game, which means no packs. Guess it will be too late by the time it gets resolved for any combining so... Guess I will just go with the few packs I have. Maybe the game is trying to tell me something lol. Either way just letting you know I cannot purchase any LM points to buy packs...
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Teremus on December 09, 2014, 08:08:40 AM
Any issues pertaining to the steam overlay are purely on valve's end with the Steamworks API. They've been having issues with it the past few weeks.
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Nehkrimah on December 09, 2014, 10:14:57 AM
also if you like you can download the standalone client and buy LP through paypal. I know it doesn't help if you already purchased Steamwallet, but otherwise, it's an option
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Shimrra3 on December 09, 2014, 05:47:21 PM
I find myself wondering if we're going to crash the server like before. That was Infestation, right?
Title: Re: It's time for the preOrder!
Post by: Caberman on December 09, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
We won't (most likely), since unlike with infestation the pack opening will be staggered aka 50-packs first, then 25-packs etc. LM did the same with Ascension and there was no server crash back then, was it  ::)?